Petition to Reset SG Leaderboards on PC

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by SonicFox5000, Jun 30, 2016.

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would u filia

  1. yeah dude

    15 vote(s)
    51.7%
  2. xD

    14 vote(s)
    48.3%
  1. SonicFox5000

    SonicFox5000 The Furriest one here maybe CB/EVO Champ '15

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  2. Saske

    Saske yeah dude

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    i vote yes

    not signing this petition tho LMFAO
     
  3. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

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    Even if you reset the leaderboards, GiantKingTurtle is still gonna be #1
     
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  4. AlcoholicRobot

    AlcoholicRobot Member

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    I mean unless there's some data showing who has played who and then calculate the correct scores based on if they had gained a win by seeing if their score increased or not then yeah. That would be fun to make though.
     
  5. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

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    I wish GiantKingTurtle would give me private Skullgirls lessons
     
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  6. Liam

    Liam ... Administrator

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    I vote reset

    Not signing that shit tho too lazy what were you thinking sonic
     
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  7. ElkyDori

    ElkyDori No Quarter

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    Fixing the scoring definitely helps, but without overhauling how the leaderboards work, I don't think wiping them is necessary.
     
  8. Kai

    Kai Go Home And Be A Family Man! Beowulf

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    Chicago, IL
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    Wipe 'em, if for nothing else but to let new kids be excited and visible.
     
  9. Liam

    Liam ... Administrator

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    West Canada
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    Skarmand
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    I want to be a visible kid help me live my dream
     
  10. Sparties

    Sparties SUPERSOAKER

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    this u
     
  11. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

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    No, that's you.
     
  12. Liam

    Liam ... Administrator

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    Yaya has no chill
     
  13. MysteriousJ

    MysteriousJ No.1 Skullgirls player in Idaho

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    Vote yes = "I have no life"
     
  14. Sparties

    Sparties SUPERSOAKER

    i'm not jason wickman
     
  15. Duckator

    Duckator Well-Known Member Evo Champ '12 & '13

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    Voting Yes
    Not signing that petition though lmao
     
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  16. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

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    This sounds exactly like the sort of thing Jason Wickman would say.
     
  17. Magma442

    Magma442 Get ready for a Showstopper!

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    I don't care if you reset it or not. Besides its not like I'll get up there hahaha.....aw.

    But the real question we should be asking is "would u filia" I say xD
     
  18. Stuff

    Stuff Lore Master Lord of Lore

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    I'm always player 2 :c
     
  19. Raging_Zoroark

    Raging_Zoroark Hot headed

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    No, I worked hard for my 6785489th position.
     
  20. Sparties

    Sparties SUPERSOAKER

    yeah you right
     
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  21. Ninja

    Ninja [Jazzy Diamonds]

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    did anyone seriously take the leaderboard for real?

    Am I the only one who did not give a shit about where I was placed?

    *shrugs*

    and why do you want to wipe the leaderboards now Sonic Fox?
     
  22. Duckator

    Duckator Well-Known Member Evo Champ '12 & '13

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    Did you not see the update? The way wins were counted were messed up since day 1.
     
  23. Ninja

    Ninja [Jazzy Diamonds]

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    i understand that. And Mike has said that he's going to fix it. But again what's the point in wiping the leaderboards. We don't use them for ranking here. Hell we don't even have ranking. so... again i really don't see the huge urge to wipe the board. I mean you can wipe it... but like it still won't matter.
     
  24. Sinclair

    Sinclair smug

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    Europe
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    Double
    yes
    Show Spoiler
    also fix(??) the thing where people alt f4 right before your win is confirmed
     
  25. Sinclair

    Sinclair smug

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    Europe
    Eliza
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    i want everyone to see my name on their screen
     
  26. Liam

    Liam ... Administrator

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    This counts as a loss for your opponent.
     
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  27. Sinclair

    Sinclair smug

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    But does it give you that +1 win? :^(
     
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  28. Liam

    Liam ... Administrator

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    Opponent disconnected is worth more than 1 win : )
     
  29. Yaya

    Yaya The other player from Vancouver Island

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    I bet this Jason guy is a jerk
     
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  30. Deer

    Deer ojEmily

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    Alright guys, hear me out

    Even though recent news has revealed that there was a problem with reporting scores on the PC version of Skullgirls for a very long time (since the start), at this point the relatively unchanging top leaderboard positions are so engrained in the SGC culture that I think it would be wrong to reset the leaderboard. As most of you know I come from a family passionate about Skullgirls and checking the leaderboards each morning has become part of our family's tradition. Just waking up and seeing that G1antK1ngTurtlE is still in fact number one to me is like waking up and seeing that the sky is still blue. While many people look up to the Will Smith's and Condoleezza Rice's of the world me and my family look up to the top players on the Skullgirls leader board. I remember when Outlaw_Spike accepted my friend request on Steam. I was so star struck that I've still been too nervous to message him, even to this day.

    The leaderboard also fills me with a great deal of hope and motivation. If I find myself in a tough spot or have a bad day at work I know I can come home and grind endless hours on quick match, hoping to one day break into that top spot. As insurmountable as it may be, it still gives me a positive goal to work towards. I'm thinking back to the nights when I would be on quick match playing until the early morning. My mom would be woken up by the sound of my mashing at 5am and come into my room asking “Are you number one yet?” and I'd always reply “Maybe one day...” Even breaking into a top 17,000 position on the leaderboard would be an accomplishment large enough to brag about for a lifetime.

    I urge you to think twice before voting to reset the leader board. You would be dismantling part of a culture, my way of life and a large part of my identity. If you've never sat around with your family, thinking about what the heroes of Skullgirls are up to then I honestly don't think you have the right to vote to reset the leader boards.
     
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  31. IsaVulpes

    IsaVulpes Just Throw

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    I thought it was just 2 losses for them?
    Which is kinda irrelevant since well yeah losses don't count for anything

    Unless Leaderboards change to be sorted by Elo or at least also display your Losses and your Win%, they're supermegapointless in any case, so why reset them
     
  32. Sparties

    Sparties SUPERSOAKER

    that was nice, but
    everyone else wants it :^(
     
  33. Sinclair

    Sinclair smug

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    Sorry we never meant to appropriate your culture like this :(

    No, but really. I think it would be great to reset the leaderboards, esp with the launch of Encore. Just start fresh!
    Why don't we reset the brackets every few months..and have like..a separate leader board with the avarage wins of active QM players? Idk, it's just an idea.
    Show Spoiler
    sorry for bad english i hope people understand what im trying to say
     
  34. Wenzel

    Wenzel I like parry

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    Voted Yes, this would improve and set a much "good exp." with 3/5 on quick match.
     
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  35. missingno

    missingno Bird/Normal

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    Counting wins is basically just a rough measure of time spent playing anyway. I don't think it really makes much difference, the leaderboard is still a joke either way.

    If there's going to be a reset, I'd like to just see it replaced with something more meaningful like MMR/Elo/TrueSkill/whatever. Hell, I've heard that already exists behind the scenes for matchmaking but just isn't shown to the user. Why not show it instead of basing the leaderboards on this silliness?
     
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  36. dekillsage

    dekillsage Gloomy EVO Champ 2014

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    Do not reset them. I will catch up.

    The grind starts now.
     
  37. Mike_Z

    Mike_Z Defender of the Night Lab Zero

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    I'm gonna respond to this one.

    Consoles are ELO. With the advent of the PC version EVERY SINGLE PERSON who said ANYTHING about the leaderboards asked for them to be replaced by not-ELO.
    So.
    Can't win?
     
  38. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

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    I might have complained about that??? I don't remember. But, if I did, my issue would have been that it took a long time to find a match because it was trying to find people of a similar skill level based on ELO. I don't have an issue with using it for leaderboards.
     
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  39. IsaVulpes

    IsaVulpes Just Throw

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    The matchmaking uses Elo on PC too.

    The main complaints about Elo are
    1) You can lose rating, so if you have 5000 rating maybe you don't want to play anymore cus what if you drop down to 4500.. If youre not feeling 100% maybe you don't wanna play now and QM becomes less populated or w/e
    2) People who don't understand what it is or how it works whining about losing rank despite winning

    I think 1) is a silly issue, but it is (or at least might be) an issue and I am unsure how to solve it; 2) would be solved by just showing the rating (which consoles don't)

    Count of wins and/or win%age being displayed along with Elo would be sweet, but yeah leaderboards sorted by wincount are just entirely meaningless.
     
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2016
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  40. 4th

    4th Member

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    yes yes yes
    also Elo please
     
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