Persona 4 Arena Ultimax

Discussion in 'Other Fighting Games' started by OP8, Oct 3, 2014.

  1. shoryusatsu999

    shoryusatsu999 Nothing but footdive!

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    Atlus hates breaking canon, so unless they do some crazy resurrection crap, the only choice there that Atlus would even think of doing would be Theo.
     
  2. DDB

    DDB Annie Train into Callie Station!

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    They pulled some crazy crap to keep Shadow Labrys around. Anything goes.
     
  3. shoryusatsu999

    shoryusatsu999 Nothing but footdive!

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    Eh, that was based on prior plot points established back in Arena. I don't really see how Zen & Rei (more likely just Zen) or P3MC would be justified and neither Nanako nor Dojima would be able to function in the Dark Hour or the TV world.
     
  4. BeatNinja

    BeatNinja *Sneezes*

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    A de-chibi-ized Zen would be fucking rad.
     
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  5. CountofBleck

    CountofBleck King of Casuals, Infinite American Resets

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    I'm opening up a lobby. Labeling it "Skullheart."
     
  6. Jutsei

    Jutsei Unwavering Hype

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    I'll be honest, even if they did add a new rerelease with more characters, I'd buy it, assuming there's a really good character I like/want in it.
    I mean there's nothing stopping me from getting CPEX so shrug.

    Guess we'll see when the arcade hits
     
  7. CountofBleck

    CountofBleck King of Casuals, Infinite American Resets

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    Lobby for Ultimax is still live btw.

    Its half full, but no one from here is...here :(
     
  8. Jutsei

    Jutsei Unwavering Hype

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    Kinda busy tonight, planning to RP some stuff with my friend on Skype. Can't come, sadly
     
  9. shoryusatsu999

    shoryusatsu999 Nothing but footdive!

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    Also can't come. I lack access to my PS3 at the moment.
     
  10. Spencer

    Spencer Painwheel

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    I'm a noob. I'm always down to play. I also play Xrd (I recognize you from Dustloop I think). PSN: QSpec
     
  11. theonlypie314

    theonlypie314 Really Boring

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    Sorry, I won't be able to play until next week when my BF's mother moves out of my house....

    Anyways 2.0 changes are slowly being translated. Here are some videos of character changes:









     
  12. shoryusatsu999

    shoryusatsu999 Nothing but footdive!

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    I don't like the Liz Mahamaon/Mamudoon change on the IK conditions. Wouldn't it be simpler to do something like forcing death when the opponent is hit with fear or negative penalty?
     
  13. Rizil

    Rizil Scrub for all eternity

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    I'm having some trouble figuring out what changes there were to Labrys in the last vid. Anyone care to elaborate if they can? Does 5B have faster startup or something? I'm confused.

    Edit: nvm looked up the changes on dustloop. She getting her old P4A axe levels back and levels degrade slower now. Also C and SB bull rush give massive amounts of axe levels now. Her DP also getting buffed on block, which was greatly needed since her DP is pretty much just a gimmick at best. Mostly buffs which is greatly needed for everyone's favorite walking talking toaster.
     
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  14. theonlypie314

    theonlypie314 Really Boring

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    The new update will be out on Jan 15th for JP arcades. We'll probably see more videos then.
     
  15. Nevins

    Nevins Hidden character Art Moderator

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    No one responded to invites sent this weekend, but everyone has a different schedule.
    Anyone else still play the game? I'm playing Xrd as well. And even Skullgirls set w/a PSN friend every weekend. :)
     
  16. DDB

    DDB Annie Train into Callie Station!

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    I saw the invite, but I was apparently too late for it.
     
  17. CountofBleck

    CountofBleck King of Casuals, Infinite American Resets

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    I wasn't on since my last lobby attempt, my bad.
     
  18. Nevins

    Nevins Hidden character Art Moderator

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    It's cool. If anyone has time this weekend, maybe we can figure out a day/time.

    Random stuff: navigators are a unique aspect for a fighting game that adds to the fun for me. Also still trying to clear Lv.200 of Risky G.Arena. I had Die For Me, but my brother discarded it during the week, so I need to get it again to stand a chance. Working on unlocking all the P-Card icons too (no rush).

    And trying to get above l.blue color card (so strange that beating someone above l.blue doesn't help). And get Margaret & Theo narrators by getting the level up.
     
  19. Zazz

    Zazz Mysterious.

    i got a copy of p4au with a decent price and it ended up being one of those editions with the teddie balloon because it was last copy in the store.

    anything I should know about this game? (i already pre-downloaded adachi/marie when they were free a few weeks ago)
     
  20. Spencer

    Spencer Painwheel

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    Yu is bullshit.
     
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  21. Zazz

    Zazz Mysterious.

    wasn't that the case in vanilla too?
     
  22. DDB

    DDB Annie Train into Callie Station!

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    Yeah but they buffed his bullshit
     
  23. Eva-Unit-Shrek

    Eva-Unit-Shrek Churn that butter!

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    So I have vanilla and was wondering if Ultimax is worth getting? I'm interested in Rise, Marie, and Margaret. How do they play/ who do the play like from other arc systems games? Also, how's the online?
     
  24. Spencer

    Spencer Painwheel

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    I'll speak to Rise since I play her. She's considered relatively high tier. She's a bit light on the damage, especially without meter. To really maximize her damage output (which is important since it is low), you're looking at a BnB, a metered BnB, a combo for when your opponent is crouching, a corner combo, and a combo when your opponent is crouching in the corner. You get extra points for having a counter combo as well. Basically, some of her specials won't link if the opponent isn't counting or the hit isn't a counter.

    She is a pretty solid hybrid. She's got a decent ranged game which is usually used to lock them down and get in to start her decent close-up game. She has a pretty dope reversal that will get you killed if you are too predictable with it. She's got a DDR special that does absurd damage.
     
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  25. Eva-Unit-Shrek

    Eva-Unit-Shrek Churn that butter!

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    I'm playing her just for the DDR.
     
  26. Clawsome Bombs

    Clawsome Bombs H E I S T B O Y S before GTAV lol

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    -Using the little explosions by setting off music notes with mic attacks makes for some really interesting blockstrings/cross ups
    -SP Platinum Disc da gawd
    -use DP only in extreme situations (which means use it all the time because Rise's fight personality makes everything all excitable)
    -Full screen D ground and air Persona hits more than you think
    -Use Arrow Rain wisely and also actually use it because so few Rises I see use it and it's such a good move in certain situations and makes combos look pretty why u no rain down
    -use dance super on predictable Yu's using Swift Strike to get in for maximum voltage
    -sweep > ROCK YOU B or Platinum Disc B is best oki tool omg

    I also play her for the DDR


    But not as much as I play her for the Detective Loveline color
     
  27. Blaise

    Blaise fucboisは出て行け^^

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    Full change list of 2.00 update
    RIP my main Yosuke :(
     
  28. Spencer

    Spencer Painwheel

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    @Clawsome Bombs

    Agreed on her D. Learning to use it is kind of the first level up you get with her (at first your persona get hit all the damn time).

    Also, 2C... *drool*. A bit of start up, but once it's out... lockdown for days.

    @Blaise

    Thanks for the link, I'll pour through that now!
     
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  29. Spencer

    Spencer Painwheel

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    Didn't get through all of it, but my thoughts on Rise changes for those that care:

    - A and B changes are going to make her poke game a bit better (right now, she mostly tries to lock you down to open you up, or IAD jB).
    - Less lockdown on Cs is no fun, but hopefully the A/B buffs help make up for it. Looks like easier scan state with 2C > D which is always good (and fun... scan state happens too rarely and is too fun).
    - D is better. Stays out even if Persona trades is a nice lockdown and faster recovery is awesome since that thing has like a minute of recovery time.
    - jB nerf is the suck, but it still hits overhead so Rise everywhere are sighing in relief. It is probably our best normal (or was?).
    - AoA buffs are nice. I like that (almost?) everyone now gets a safe overhead like a Dust. Makes mix-ups better on the characters that didn't have great mix-ups.
    - DP losing counter hit is amazing. You'll still eat a punish if you whiff it... but at least it isn't likely game ending.
    - Music note changes are good. As it is, they are awfully easy to see coming if you've played Rise once. Now that lockdown from the notes will hopefully play a bigger role outside of Oki.
    - SB arrow rain causing paralyze is the sex.

    Overall, net buff me thinks.

    Also, Yukari and SLab both seemed to get buffs to ease their execution (decreased start-up on feather shot!) meaning I may end up dropping Rise for either of them... both of which interested me first but put me off due to execution requirements. Also, Liz buffs look promising and she's my first love.
     
  30. Rizil

    Rizil Scrub for all eternity

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    Going through Labrys' stuff, it's all just buffs buff buffs, and I love it. Just jotting down my thoughts on the big things.

    -22A+B now tracks and has faster startup. Removing the C+D versions is fine since it becomes redundant. They're no longer needed.
    -C orb now boomerangs around and sticks around longer. Goes without saying it helps to control space better.
    -Axe level is now back to base green instead of base blue. Blue axe sucks. Hell to do a lot of the real BnBs you need at least yellow axe, so to get there sooner, why thank you very much
    -Axe levels now maintain longer. Self explanatory hell yea!
    -2B just getting buffs galore, being dash cancellable now and added untech time and improved head invincibility
    -Guillotine getting buffed, never really had that much of a problem with guillotine, but I'll take it
    -Her DP getting some MUCH NEEDED buffs, seriously most Labrys players don't ever use this. It's way too risky and really predictable. You'd have to hope your opponent is wearing a blindfold
    -AoA is meh. I never use it anyway so increased recovery won't affect me that much.
    -Persona being invincible for all C moves until active frames is really good for adding pressure if you space it properly. Don't have to worry about her getting stuffed trying to get some mid range pressure. Also nailing people with 2C I just find amusing, idk why.
    -So far the only nerf I saw was 5C no longer being jump cancellable, which kinda sucks but luckily Labrys isn't too overly reliant on her persona to do damage. Think I'm gonna enjoy this.
     
  31. Nevins

    Nevins Hidden character Art Moderator

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    Yeah, I'm glad to hear about these changes for the most part & am looking forward to them hitting consoles around the globe soon. In the meantime... anyone up for some games Fri/Sat?

    I can host a PS3 player room, or anyone else. Just post what day/time works best & I can get an idea of what to do.
    I also plan on playing Skullgirls & Xrd this weekend too.
     
  32. theonlypie314

    theonlypie314 Really Boring

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    Oh man, Ken getting all those buffs... I'm pretty hype for it.

    I can play on Saturday at 7pm Mountain Time (8PM Pacific/9pm Eastern) for P4AU.
    I haven't played SG in a year and I'm still pretty garbage tier at GG to play anyone.
     
  33. Clawsome Bombs

    Clawsome Bombs H E I S T B O Y S before GTAV lol

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    Finally starting to get Interwebs Connections back in the Clawsome Household so times where I will be playing coming soon

    *playing me may or may not result in excessive amounts of Rise (and stripper Rise), Adachi, and Chie (and dominatrix Chie)*
     
  34. OP8

    OP8 Member

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    GG's. Thanks for the invite. I've been playing so much Xrd that I forgot how much fun this game is.
     
  35. theonlypie314

    theonlypie314 Really Boring

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    Sorry, I'll be busy tonight so I won't be able to play. Perhaps another time!
     
  36. Clawsome Bombs

    Clawsome Bombs H E I S T B O Y S before GTAV lol

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    @indieanimator

    I was playing Ni No Kuni and my PS3 latched on to my phone's hotspot
    So I got the invite but well I have tried to play on that hotspot before
    It didn't go so hot

    But Internet people are coming over Monday to give me actual Internet
    I'm sorry for the inconvenience next time you send me an invite I'll Ultimax twice as hard I swear
     
  37. Rizil

    Rizil Scrub for all eternity

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    Hopping on now to get some work in. It's been a while. Come at me if you want free wins.
     
  38. Spencer

    Spencer Painwheel

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    I'm going to try and get on later. Hanging out with the wife for now, but I may be on tonight at some point.
     
  39. Jutsei

    Jutsei Unwavering Hype

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    My weekends dominated by League and Uncharted 3 this time...
    Soryr, maybe next time.
    Once I buy Margaret I should be on top of everything
     
  40. Nevins

    Nevins Hidden character Art Moderator

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    Yeah, thanks for playing. GGs. I forgot, were you maining Junpei? It's my favorite fighting game right now. :) Skullgirls & Xrd are a close 2nd & 3rd.

    Clawsome: no prob. Looking forward to it whenever works. My bro & I really enjoyed Kuni. Epic art & story on that game.
     
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