Well since no one else is making a thread about this and since it is a pretty damn big change I decided I would make a thread on this and voice my opinions on the change. Before I get into this though, I welcome anyone else who has thoughts about the change to also voice their opinions on it good or bad. I was delaying the creation of this thread as most if not everyone dislikes the new change to Ms. Fortune's c lk and i expected it to either be reverted or buffed this weekend. Seeing as that didn't happen I was really dreading making a thread dedicated to this. Now first and foremost her old c lk was 7f and +3 on block. This played an important part in her neutral game (although not really too crutch) it helped make her bad neutral game a little better. Now I'm not say "omg she has the worst neutral game" but compared to most of the cast it is pretty awful. Fortune's only moves that she was + on (while grounded) was s lp, c lp, and c lk. She can only make other moves safe when she has her head off or via assist. The recent change nerfed her c lk (which was the fastest in the game at the time) from 7f > 8f and +0 on block. I've taken some time to digest the change and thought maybe you'd be able to bait out moves with it but that was not the case. All it did was make her bad neutral game even worse, as well as something I totally feel was unwarranted, something I know a few people would agree with me on that. The combo opportunity from a max range c lk didn't offer much damage and if you wanted to continue you'd have to follow up with Rekkas > Slide which wasted your otg. I believe this trade off was more than enough to balance it out and it's not like anyone was complaining or crying about the move being "too good" and those who were had very little knowledge about the move compared to other crouching moves. I don't want to make this thread about anyone else's crouching moves *cough* Cerebella *cough* as I know that will make bigger gameplay changes than what is desired, but as to the reasons why Ms. Fortune's c lk was nerfed I believe they were completely, as I said before, unwarranted. Sure it was the fastest c lk in the game but what else does Ms. Fortune really have going for her, and even then it still got beat out by crouching moves that had better priority. Fortune's c lk served as a way to pressure the opponent both head on and head off. Even head off if you try pressuring the opponent by hitting the head in the corner on block with a c lk they will have a moment where they can call an assist or super which is extremely frustrating. It's not like the move was ever "too good" or anything like that. I would really appreciate it if @Mike_Z would reconsider this nerf and for anyone having other thoughts or the same thoughts to voice them. Thank you.