Konami/Console Updates you will want to read

Discussion in 'News Section' started by Vadsamoht, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. Vadsamoht

    Vadsamoht Sumgai Administrator

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    Youtube video courtesy of Makross. For the original source, go here: http://t.co/Xb1PB4pNvD

    tl;dr, Following Lab Zero ceasing relations with Konami, Konami has asked for Skullgirls to be de-listed from PSN and XBLA on the 17th and 31st of this month, respectively. Mike is working really hard to get a build through QA to be published by Autumn Games (PS3 EU PS3 NA)/Marvelous AQL (360)/CyberFront (PS3-Japan), but details are sketchy. One of the reasons a new build is necessary is that if SG keeps using the same Communications ID for the game, Konami would be able to shut the game down whenever it wants.

    Lab Zero only found out about this through a Sony account manager after the request had been approved, so the decision is probably final. They have requested the date for the PSN takedown be moved until the end of the month, but after claiming that Sony and then Autumn wouldn't let them, all three asked for the date to be moved and Konami has not responded since then.

    What does this mean for you?

    Sony has said that people won't have to re-buy the game through the store, but because this has not happened before nobody knows exactly how the transition will work. Also, this should not remove the game from your hard drive if you already have it, but may or may not cause netplay issues.

    Also, time that Mike spends on this is time he isn't spending on Big Band. On the upside, if the new verison gets through QA on the first try, there's a possibility that the Big Band Build will be up sooner than it would have been otherwise.​

    What you can do -
    1. Please, don't talk shit about Konami online. It isn't going to change anything, makes us look bad, and makes them think that they've made the right decision. Nothing good will be achieved by ripping into the powerless intern managing Konami's twitter account, etc.
    2. Test out the latest Beta build if you have it. Mike has very little time to test the build before submitting for QA (Monday) if we want to prevent the game from disappearing after getting pulled. If you know how, using the -log option to run the game may be useful.
      1. Update: The best way to let Mike know about any issues with the Beta is to comment on the Patch Notes update on Steam, or else send a PM @Mike_Z on here.
    3. Keep playing, and keep having fun. This isn't the end of the world.
    4. If you want to buy a copy of the game to help support Lab Zero, buy the Steam version. The PS3 and 360 versions won't result in any extra money for L0 at this point, and Konami gets a cut from those.
    More info will be added over the coming hours, but I wanted to get this out as quickly as possible.


    Other (Minor) news from salty:

    EDIT: FAQ that will be updated as new info arises
    EDIT2: Posts by Ravidrath on NeoGAF:
    Source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=92782825&postcount=224
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2013
  2. Maji

    Maji Well-Known Member EightySixed Staff

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  3. Vladislav_Paizis

    Vladislav_Paizis Well-Known Member

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    I just hope this gets sorted out and nobody has to rebuy the game on consoles. The good news is that we might get a console patch in December unless something else happens that delays it again.
     
  4. Jutsei

    Jutsei Unwavering Hype

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    Wow.
    I.
    Words fail me.
    I never would've expected Skullgirls to go through such an ordeal.
     
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  5. Agent J

    Agent J Elite Beat Agent Rank BA-2

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  6. Cellsai

    Cellsai Two Girls One C.hp Art Moderator

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    I feel bad liking the initial post. Fucking hell. I know it's said a lot, but man SG really cannot catch a break.
     
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  7. Vladislav_Paizis

    Vladislav_Paizis Well-Known Member

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    Production on SG is still continuing, at least on PC. Also, @Vadsamoht, Mike Z mentioned that they will be now working on Voicepacks.
     
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  8. Shiro_Shishi

    Shiro_Shishi Weilder of the Canadian Skullheart. It's poutine.

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    The fact that Konami tried to do this SECRETLY and just screw over EVERYONE is what pisses me off.

    What if Mike Z and LabZero didn't find out about it? Just wake up one day about reports of Skullgirls no longer on PSN and downloaded copies not working anymore?

    Fucking hell Konami.
     
  9. Sanoblaze

    Sanoblaze Fradulent Coluder!!!!

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    guys, do not make comments just to get mad. it does suck but getting mad wont solve anything. Mike said so himself. we should support his request and try our best to remain calm in the situation. if we can help in any way, do it. this isn't the end of skullgirls, just a bump in the road/hill we need to get over. we can get through this but not if we waste time getting angry about it. also, do not call Konami Nazis. Mike said thats very disrespectful to more than just Konami.
     
  10. ashxu

    ashxu Active Member

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    profound sadness

     
  11. Midiman

    Midiman "Are you going out with your girlfriend?" Moderator

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    no I wanna get mad about business practice and internet fuck you

    I hate everything ARGH CAPCOM

    anyways though this is pretty unfortunate, I do hope they get a release out properly, as soon as possible. explains the moods as of recent
     
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  12. AceZTeller

    AceZTeller The Spooniest Bard

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    See, that's what got me too. I feel like that was kind of (read: VERY) underhanded of them. Like Mike said though, they have nice people at Sony who want to help them, so hopefully it turns out well...
     
  13. Alstein

    Alstein Member

    Skullgirls has had a very bumpy road, so unfair.

    Never seen a good game get this snakebit.

    Hopefully Sony/LZ/Microsoft/Autumn can get it done.
     
  14. KaboomKid

    KaboomKid Wishes Apple Jacks tasted like apples.

  15. Eternal

    Eternal New Member

    Murphy's law should be called Mike Z's law at this point.
     
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  16. AkitoCL

    AkitoCL A friend of justice came to help.

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    If I got it right, this isn't going to affect the PC version in any way, right?
    I bought both PS3 and PC versions and I'm worried.

    Also:
    I didn't get quite right this part (ignorant me). At all.
     
  17. Agent York

    Agent York Crisp as a clear spring morning

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    I'm just hoping this won't lead to the worst possible situation of people having to buy the game again. I mean hey, I wouldn't mind, but last thing we need is for every naysayer to start spreading that Lab Zero somehow planned this as a way to lynch money of people, or whatever stupid conspiracy crap that Windsaigo goes on about.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to vent my anger by dying in Touhou a lot.
     
  18. Hilary

    Hilary ❤ ❤ ❤

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  19. Number 13

    Number 13 Righteous ASG Soldier Moderator

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  20. Chairman Mao

    Chairman Mao Buttons 'R Fun

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    Why must this game constantly bring such bad luck to the people associated with it? Serious
     
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  21. Mr. X

    Mr. X All Hail The Queen Moderator

    @Vadsamoht fixed the publishers for you. Marvelous AQL for 360, Autumn Games for PSNs that aren't JPN.
     
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  22. RurouniLoneWolf

    RurouniLoneWolf Avenger of the Dark

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    A troublesome situation. I'll try and hop on the beta on my laptop for a little bit to help with testing. It won't be much because my laptop isn't meant for gaming but it'll have to do.

    Be sure to get some much needed rest once this over, Mike.
     
  23. ToDDaBeLLa

    ToDDaBeLLa No. 18

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    This little indie game raised almost a MILLION dollars in donations (and gave me Ciscokid). Konami let it be, and let these guys catch a break. This game isn't going ANYWHERE. Come on Lab Zero, raise it higher YOU CAN WIN THIS ONE!!!!!
     
  24. NekoGamerX

    NekoGamerX Fighting Cat girls

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    well this sucks.
     
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  25. Cyberbeta

    Cyberbeta Active Member

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    That is Just Dirty Pool by Konami to do it quietly, but the good news is it was discovered in time.

    All speed to Mike Z for trying to save the game he helped make and has promoted his rear end off for.
     
  26. Lunerstep

    Lunerstep Filia Fanatic, Minette Supporter, and I love Marie

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    So for those of us who or really REALLY ignorant does that basically mean skullgirls wont ever be on the consoles again and force everyone that cant get a good computer or laptop to be PC players or something?
     
  27. Solblade44

    Solblade44 Chumimi~n!

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    It sounds temporary but it could be down for awhile. The game sounds like it will still work but the online aspect is another story; since it hasn't happened before to a game with online no one knows what will happen.
     
  28. Vadsamoht

    Vadsamoht Sumgai Administrator

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    From what I gather, Offline will still work but nobody knows if Online still will.
     
  29. TheChrisGlass

    TheChrisGlass New Member Lab Zero

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    There's a reason Facebook is considering making an optional "Sympathize" button.
     
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  30. Mwisk

    Mwisk Wholehearted supporter! (Aka Mhardle)

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    Let us do the best we can do to help them.

    Let's test the beta, I'm opening a 1v1 -only- lobby to test downs. Remember to mash buttons in inappropriate times also in the menus and such.

    Gogogo people! \o/
     
  31. Squire Grooktook

    Squire Grooktook The Releaser

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    I will say this.

    It really did sadden me to find out that Konami would no longer be the publisher for Skullgirls, and it saddens me even now that they've really burned the bridge here.

    I know it's silly, but some of my favorite franchises of all time have been published under the Konami flag. Gradius, Contra, Castlevania...and it was nice to have my favorite fighting game under the same flag as those beloved games (even if technically no programming team at Konami had anything to do with Skullgirls).

    That being sad, I would advise against being too mad at them. I heard one guy in chat jokingly (I assume) say that he was going to cancel his Metal Gear 5 pre-order. Some people have a tendency to lash out at entire companies for the actions of maybe one or two bureaucrats inside, which is not a good idea because the people producing the games aren't likely to be the ones making these decisions.
     
  32. This is definitely going to make me think twice about buying anything Konami touches. They're a business, and the only way to get anything across to a business is to hit them in the wallet.

    I wish I had the PC version to help beta test, but maybe I can find some other way to toss help in Lab Zero's direction.
     
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  33. Fedora_Ninja

    Fedora_Ninja The ship to Git Gud just sailed.

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    So I just tried to join the lobby and it crashed. How do I diagnose and report?
     
  34. Vadsamoht

    Vadsamoht Sumgai Administrator

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    Not sure if Mike is looking for lobby crashes specifically, but normally you'd email bugreport. According to twitter, the best way is to add a comment to the patch notes update on Steam, or send @Mike_Z a PM here.

    As for diagnosis, just explain (exactly) what you were doing when you got the crash, extra bonus mega points if you can give a series of steps that reproduces the error at will.

    In addition, if you're running the game with the -log option you could send them the logfile found somewhere in my documents.
     
  35. LordCeno

    LordCeno Violator Diplomat

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    Not silly at all. Add Silent Hill and Metal Gear to that list and this is pretty much what I've been thinking since they first announced severing ties.

    Yeah, I think you're right. I have a friend who worked for Rockstar for a while, and I've heard a few stories about bureaucratic nonsense. I honestly doubt there was anything particularly malicious about this, and it was simply a matter of "We're not publishing this anymore, so de-list it". The paperwork was probably #23 on a list of 80 things they gave some intern to take care of in a day.

    Sure it sucks, but I don't think its anything fans should particularly get up in arms about.
     
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  36. MegamanDS

    MegamanDS You know who EightySixed Staff

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    well this sucks
     
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  37. Chicago

    Chicago Hail the house Canopy

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    One problem after the other. Come on Lab Zero and come on Skullgirls, we can beat this one, we won't stop now.
     
  38. Age

    Age Well-Known Member

    "What's that? a game we're involved with has an enthusiastic fan-base? Shut down EVERYTHING" - Konami Madagascar, 2013
     
  39. Grimmhart

    Grimmhart Slap the pig with the carrot.

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    For once we can finally say...

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  40. garrett1502

    garrett1502 New Member

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    Is there any specific information on why this is happening?
     

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