Fukua tech thread

Discussion in 'Fukua' started by CaioLugon, Apr 1, 2014.

  1. Domo

    Domo literally unblockable 40 frame overheads

    Location:
    Kirkland, WA
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    XBL:
    Domo is special
    Beowulf
    Big Band
    Painwheel
    I've actually had this J.hk bug happen to me a few times before. No idea why it happens
     
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  2. IsaVulpes

    IsaVulpes Just Throw

    Location:
    Trinidad && Tobago
    Ms. Fortune
    Filia
    Double
    Does it happen randomly when you're in the air, or when you're really close to the ground?
     
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  3. Domo

    Domo literally unblockable 40 frame overheads

    Location:
    Kirkland, WA
    PSN:
    Domo_is_special
    XBL:
    Domo is special
    Beowulf
    Big Band
    Painwheel
    Its only happened like twice to me, and both times have been close to the ground
     
  4. astp

    astp New Member

    i think it's always happened to me when i've tried doing a j.hk as soon as possible, that's why i said it was sort of an instant air thing
     
  5. Skiller

    Skiller Definitely mashing Greggor

    Location:
    Northern VA
    Fukua
    Parasoul
    Double
    Uhh I guess this goes here.

     
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  6. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

    Steam:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/moon_cadenza
    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
    please do it 1v1 please for more accurate damage.
     
  7. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    PSN:
    O3366-2020O
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    1v1, 2v2 and 3v2 all give the same numbers
     
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  8. Skiller

    Skiller Definitely mashing Greggor

    Location:
    Northern VA
    Fukua
    Parasoul
    Double
    Just worry about the damage multiplier. If it's 1.00 then it's the same as 1v1.
     
  9. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella


    Guess I'll post this since someone else noticed you can fireball super after throw
     
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  10. IsaVulpes

    IsaVulpes Just Throw

    Location:
    Trinidad && Tobago
    Ms. Fortune
    Filia
    Double
    It was never a secret that you can; the question was always how to get it to work without specific setups, or if that doesn't work, what exactly those setups need to work reliably, to have an easier time finding them.
     
  11. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    PSN:
    O3366-2020O
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    give'em the poopers

     
  12. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella
    Seemed to have worked the last time I tried it on the PS3
     
  13. fullmetalross

    fullmetalross One Punch, One Kill

    Steam:
    fmross
    PSN:
    fmross
    Fukua
    Big Band
    Parasoul
    For the j.hk falling while hitting nothing thing, I also agree its when you try and do a rising j.hk from the ground that it seems to happen.
     
  14. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Steam:
    may_contain_peanuts
    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    I think I know the answer to this already but does is there a way to convert off air grab midscreen?
     
  15. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

    Steam:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/moon_cadenza
    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
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  16. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella
    Not without a DHC
     
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  17. obregon

    obregon Active Member

    It's possible to do an input like qcf+lp+mp+mk off the airthrow to get a super and an assist call with the same commands, and if the assist is something like cerecopter it can let you continue the combo off the super's OTG hits. Gotta be a pretty low airthrow - at the height around the peak of most normal jumps where the super OTG becomes a 1 frame link, the double input trick doesn't work because you're actully calling the assist on one frame and then the super the next.
     
  18. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

    Steam:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/moon_cadenza
    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
    so here's a cross under for y'all people.....you j mp(all hits) then before you drop do j mk and dash under.
     
  19. Mr Peck

    Mr Peck that UK Peacock player Lab Zero

    Location:
    Guildford, UK
    Peacock
    Robo Fortune
    I just dropped Fukua, so I made some of my old private/unlisted youtube videos public. I hope someone finds these useful!

    Post-airthrow high/low oki:


    Simple incoming mixup that's hard to pushblock. Sorry about the Steam chat noises:


    Fukua/Peacock hard tag burst bait crossunder reset:


    Crossunder resets. Feel free to replace copter with another assist:


     
    Last edited: May 19, 2014
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  20. Nixonesque

    Nixonesque Member

    Steam:
    76561197994251591
    Parasoul
    Double
    Beowulf
    Probably not the first person to figure this out so sorry if I missed it in the thread: after MK shadow whiff a s.mk for a which-way mixup. Whether you cross under or not depends on how soon you whiff the mk.
     
  21. HPHateCraft

    HPHateCraft 15 meter class Titan

    Location:
    Western KY
    PSN:
    BurdManJR270
    Peacock
    Squigly
    Big Band
    I might be late to the party here, but I just realized you could jump cancel her air fireball. So anyway you could go for a air fireball, jump cancel into fireball super, for a set up that causes the fire ball to hit regular, and the fireball super to cross up?
     
  22. Mike_Z

    Mike_Z Defender of the Night Lab Zero

    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Steam:
    labzero_mike
    PSN:
    MikeZWasTaken
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    Peacock
    You can't jump cancel it, you can jump afterward.
     
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  23. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

    Steam:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/moon_cadenza
    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
    @Mike_Z is that with any version of fireball? ever since i saw the trailer(lol) i wanted to use it for something of my own accord.
     
  24. Uzumakihero

    Uzumakihero still can't get to Framingham

    Steam:
    Uzumakihero
    PSN:
    Uzumakihero
    Parasoul
    Cerebella
    Whoa, I've seen this happen to me before, but I don't know how to recreate it.
     
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  25. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella
    Finally had it happen to me as well. It happens so fast that its kind of hard to even guess what might have triggered it unless it was recorded.
     
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  26. Mike_Z

    Mike_Z Defender of the Night Lab Zero

    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Steam:
    labzero_mike
    PSN:
    MikeZWasTaken
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    Peacock
    Well then let's hope it gets recorded.

    It could be related to what happened the last time you interacted with the opponent...

    I do hope this is found, I'd just LOVE to have to patch it. >.<
     
  27. Smash and Crash

    Smash and Crash The Dark Light

    Steam:
    Smash and Crash
    PSN:
    Smash _and_Crash
    Squigly
    Fukua
    Filia
    You can't cancel the air fireball into any other move but her supers, but there is a window where you can combo afterwards which involves using her second jump. I have combos and a reset with it, but I need to get a capture card(or a good recording program for the steam version) in order to record it with decent quality.
     
  28. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

    Steam:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/moon_cadenza
    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
    I'll do the honors of finding those then and record them. can you give me notations? or you would like to do them yourself?
     
  29. Smash and Crash

    Smash and Crash The Dark Light

    Steam:
    Smash and Crash
    PSN:
    Smash _and_Crash
    Squigly
    Fukua
    Filia
    lol I got one working properly now(had to tweak some settings) so I'll record myself (sorry:( ), and I'll upload it soon.
     
  30. Smash and Crash

    Smash and Crash The Dark Light

    Steam:
    Smash and Crash
    PSN:
    Smash _and_Crash
    Squigly
    Fukua
    Filia
    After 3 hours of trying to get Sony Vegas to work. Here it is:

    And sorry for the double post.
     
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  31. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

    Steam:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/moon_cadenza
    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
    Awesome. i'll see what i can do with this knowledge
     
  32. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

    Steam:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/moon_cadenza
    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double


    this is what i came up with.

    Notation:

    Stuff>s hp> j hp > j hk > fireball LK > air jump > j lp > jmp (all hits and then delay) > j mk > j hp(fast fall) > dash under.


    here's the best part. after j lp you can air grab for untechable knockdown. leading to another 50/50 situation.

    @KhaosMuffins @MegamanDS @guitalex2007 @Domo
    @CaioLugon

    check it out and tell me what you think.

    EDIT: doesn't work on double and fat ass band

    EDIT(X2): it does work on double just not consistently
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2014
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  33. MegamanDS

    MegamanDS You know who EightySixed Staff

    Steam:
    MegamanDS
    Fukua
    Parasoul
    its happened to me a lot but ONLY during online play when i'm near the opponent. pretty sure its due to rollback or whatever that thing is called where the game "thinks" i hit them on block but i actually didn't so she still comes down as though she did.

    Never happened offline yet.


    First, I'm sad you included khaos at all on the list for fukua advice let alone before me.
    Second, I like the concept but is the j. fp after the mk actually making them fall faster? I've been doing that reset before with the fp. Ill have to test it to see if you actually fall faster
     
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  34. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

    Steam:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/moon_cadenza
    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
    i included him because he wanted to main fukua so i thought he might like it. j fp......helps because if you delay the j mp you will kinda slide down. the j mk will keep them up and j fp will let you fall faster. @MegamanDS
     
  35. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella
    I'm sad you didn't have me on there let alone putting mmds at all

    EDIT: jk

    EDIT EDIT: mostly
     
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  36. Sharnt

    Sharnt Member

    Beowulf
    Fukua
    Ms. Fortune
    I found some anti peacock specific tech, if I ever found a way to do it reliably I'll make a video.
     
  37. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella
    TK HP fireball is my anti peacock tech atm

    With some random MK Clones here and there
     
  38. Sharnt

    Sharnt Member

    Beowulf
    Fukua
    Ms. Fortune
    It's a series of crossup/under that all starts from the same point and make for a 4 way mixup which depends only on the timing you input things, but since it's 1AM here I'm too lazy to try things further.
     
  39. IsaVulpes

    IsaVulpes Just Throw

    Location:
    Trinidad && Tobago
    Ms. Fortune
    Filia
    Double
    I can tell you masterlvl secret
    Fireball super
     
  40. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella
    Does it beat out argus? Can't peacock put out a lenny to sponge the hits?
     

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